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 Post subject: Help identifying a piece
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:56 pm 
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Hello,
I just bought this and, for me, it could be like a piece from a textile weaving set.It's 14 inches long.
Am I wrong? This is from the Paiwan tribe, in Taiwan. Any help for me?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:14 pm 
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Hello,

I did not have much reply on this item.

Could it be from the Himalaya area?

Many forum members here know more than I do on this area.

Could they give me an opinion?

Thank you!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:17 pm 
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A kind of shaman/ritual knife or short staff?
Or once again a piece from a weaving set?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:36 pm 
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Not sure that this part of a weaving loom - the wear on it doesn't seem consistent with something that would pass through a loom as a shuttle/bobbin. Nor is it a sword beater, heddle or shed stick. If people claim that this is something to do with weaving/textiles could it be a weight used for hand spinning yarn?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:47 am 
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Thank you, Iain, for your helpful comments!
For the geographic or cultural origin of this strange object, what would you suggest?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:28 pm 
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I think that you have posted us quite a challenge!

I wondered if the implement might be used to pick out threads for supplementary weaving. However. the size at 14 inches would make if quite unwieldy for this purpose. The top looks to have a very specific groove as if it was meant for threads to pass through it but yet it can't be used like a shuttle as the other end is a point.

Almost like a hair pin from some cultures.

I don't know which cultural group. If from Taiwan it might be Paiwan as there is a raised face/head carved in the implement which might relate to this influence.

In short, I have NO idea - but fascinating!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:02 pm 
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Thank you, Pamela!
Yes, a mystery object!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:25 pm 
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I have been contacted by Ann Goodman who has read this thread with interest. Ann says:
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Attached are photos of a Yi bimo (shaman) ritual object, termed 'faqi' or 'spirit quiver'. The piece is hollow and contains long thin pieces of wood, presumably the spirit arrows. The bimo places the opened jaws against his open mouth and the spirit from the quiver is empowered. The figures on top of the faqi are prominent dieties in Yi animistic worship. They differ in shape from the heads decorating Yuanzhumin's piece.

I doubt that the object Yuanzhumin has posted is a faqi, but the similarity in shape is interesting and offers an opportunity for me to show the beautiful lacquerware craftsmanship on this faqi.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:06 pm 
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Just back online and thinking about this piece - I wonder if it could be a 'meshing' tool used to manufacture nets?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:48 am 
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Very interesting! Thank you all for your info and help!
The more I see it, the more I think it's a shaman ceremonial knife from Nepal!


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 Post subject: Yi Bimo lacquerware
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This does not help with yuanzhumin's original question. However, after Martin Conlan had been looking at the thread and seen the photos above of Ann Goodman's example of a Yi bimo (shaman) ritual object, termed 'faqi' or 'spirit quiver' he sent me a couple of photos of Yi Bimo lacquerware to share with the forum - see the attached photos.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:15 pm 
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I just asked Martin whether the photos are of lacquer ware bowls - which they are. See an image of what is probably a bowl cover attached.

Martin also sent me some links to on-line information on this Yi lacquer ware:

http://faculty.washington.edu/stevehar/lacquer.html
http://www.burkemuseum.org/static/mount ... llage.html
https://www.google.com/culturalinstitut ... S9qw?hl=en


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