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 Post subject: Rare Li Vest
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:01 am 
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Another rare Li item acquired in Beijing in 2005. I have seen one vest like this for sale, years ago. At listing said that it is 19thC and the buttons are Ching. Again, any information or documentation would be greatly appreciated.

I have close ups of this side, and of the obverse, but, for some reason they won't post.

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[Anna, I have managed to add the image which, for some reason, you could not add to this thread. It might have been because there was no name differentiation. I made it Image 2! - Admin]


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 Post subject: Re: Rare Li Vest
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:14 pm 
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Based on 'Traditional Culture of the Li Ethnic Group' published in 2001 and edited by Wang Xueping which I describe more in the thread 'Rare Li Jacket' I think that this vest is also from the group speaking the Qi dialect. I think it might come from Chanjiang based on a photo which I will try and scan. There aren't any vests shown, just jackets.

It is very difficult to quote page numbers from the book as it the pages are all numbered in Chinese! It is possible by counting but, forgive me, I opted out at this stage! Section IV of the book covers 'Dress and Adornment' with with 'Dress for Women' coming first and split by group (Ha, Qi, Run, Sai, Meifu).


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 Post subject: Re: Rare Li Vest
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:27 am 
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Curiously, the same book shows some other photos of similar jackets, but attributes them to Ha-speaking people (one of the Li sub-groups).
Re the 'vest': I suspect it is simply a jacket that had the sleeves removed and not replaced. The Li are known for replacing sleeves and other bits of worn clothing- I've had several pieces with evidence of this. Both pieces are very attractive and would be welcome in any Li collection.


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 Post subject: Re: Rare Li Vest
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:44 am 
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The problem is that all the Li dialect groups seem to use similar motifs in their textiles! I think that it is too late for researchers to determine the origins and meanings of the designs as an understanding of them is much too far back in time. I guess that most of the women who even made the traditional textiles are elderly or are no more. The decades pass so quickly as does the understanding of the culture.

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