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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:31 pm 
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Bojour à tous

back on tribal textiles for a little bag I have just bought. It was sold, without precise origine as "from the south seas...".

little precious thing 20X17 cm. One big square beaded decoration with geometrical design. At each side of the square a row of wool (?) tassels. Bundles of horse (?) hair.

The most puzzeling thing is the ikat fabric of which is made the purse; At first glance this just a piece of ikat. A nearer view makes it look like a lizzard skin, and a closed inspection shows that the fabric is not made of classical cotton thread but of vegetal fiber like fine raffia. Each weft nod appears like a lizzard skin scale, lightly glossing. This fabric is very precious and unusual.
I kow only raffia ikat fabrics fron Malagasy.

I am very curious to know more about this bag and its origine.

Avec mes cordiales salutations

Louis


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:40 am 
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I would say this abaca, ikat bag with beads is from the T'Boli tribe of Mindanao, Philippines. It is probably a man's bag used to carry betel nut, tobacco and other personal items. The T'Boli as well as the Mandaya and Bagobo were fond of beads but the ikat patterns on the back look more like T'Boli Tinalak designs. Check resources on the T'Boli to compare. Hope this helps!

The tuffs of hair are probably horse hair. MAC


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:08 am 
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What a nice little bag Louis! I agree with MAC that this is probably abaca cloth. You might be interested in a previous thread on the forum titled 'Abaca fiber ikat': http://www.tribaltextiles.info/community/viewtopic.php?t=65&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 It cites some references that could be helpful.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:35 pm 
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Hello Mac and Susan

thank you for your help for this bag. Philippines was indeed one of my guess because of the beads and the general look of the bag. but the fiber ikat made me to think also to Malagasy...

The banana fibers are more likely than raphia for the ikat fabric,which is a very fine and precious fabric made with a great skilfulness

merci

Louis


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Let's make it a trio, I agree wholeheartedly with Mac and Susan about the Phillipine origins and that it is an abaca fibre piece. I have a few pieces that have turned up here in Australia and love them dearly.
Regards to all.
Jim Cotter.


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