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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:44 am 
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For those who enjoy simplicity...

There are quite a few jackets like this with traders at the moment. I had not noticed them before, so perhaps they are recently arrived. Some have sleeves, some are sleeveless. They are made from some kind of bark cloth (palm?).

Li presumably? Anyone else noticed these?


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Nice. I have only seen similar jackets in indigo with stripes (and have one), not with a natural background and stripes. These (in indigo background) are usually ascribed to the Li speaking the Ha dialect.

Looking through one of my books on the Li, 'Traditional Brocade of Li Ethnic Group' published by Hainan Publishing House ISBN 7-5443-1636-X/J-31, there is a photo, page 177, of: "Men's Jacket and Short Skirt Be Made Out of Linen" showing a jacket rather like the one you show in a natural coloured (no stripes) bast fibre. There is a lighter edging to front and sleeve - perhaps selvedge. Turn over and there are 3 photos over the two-page spread pps178/179 all in natural, probably bast, fibres. One is of 'Ha Men's Dress and Adornment' (using a bow and arrow to fish standing in water) and another is of 'Qi Men's Dress And Adornment' and one of the jackets (3 men shown) is similar to the one being worn in the first photo I mention. There is quite a nice section in this book on 'Traditional Men's Wear'. Best that I can do at the moment...............!

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Wonderful! thanks Pamela. I don't have that book ... must try to track it down.

here is the sleeveless, un-patterned version ... clothing doesn't get much more basic than this


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Pamela, Chris,
it is very similar to some popular japanese jackets made with bast fibers (hemp, bark or wisteria) Some have sleeves , some are sleeveless.
The Ainu (aborigenes from Japan) from the northern island of Hokkaido were using a bast fiber called ohyo (elm bark) to make some similar jackets.


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An other exemple.


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Yes, I too have seen these the last few visits to Chiangmai. I have convinced myself that this cloth is not true hemp (Cannabis) but I have no idea what fiber plant it is. One book I saw at Susan's called it screw tree and showed strips of fiber drying. I would really like to know which bast fiber plants were used on Haunan island for spinning and weaving!

My speciality is the study and collection of traditional hemp and other bast fiber weavings with a strong focus on the Himalayan foothills and Yunnan plateau.

Please feel free to contact me with any questions and observations you may have...

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