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Peter van Ham

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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:28 pm

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Peter van Ham

Post subject: Re: Mystery hopefully soved...

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:40 pm

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Pamela

Post subject: photogallery/study of the Kachin Jingpho bags

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:05 pm

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Bill Hornaday

Post subject: Wonderful Job

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:13 pm

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Pamela

Post subject: Request for more photos of Jingpho, Jingpaw, Singpo bags

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:00 am

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Many thanks, Bill, for your generous comments.

I have a general request to forum members and browsers. If you have a Jingpho/Jingpaw/Singpo bag in your collection please would you share a photo with us and also agree that I can add it to the photogallery? (Browsers, you will need to join the forum as a member to do this - a very easy task. Shout for help if you have any problems with the photo posting procedure.) If you post a photo would you please give us as much information as you have - when, where you bought it and any information which you received on it at the time. Whilst, if it has been bought from a dealer, the information may be suspect as it cannot be directly verified, it is always interesting to know.

If you find any similar bags in museums do let us know. If you can get permission to share a photo with us that would be excellent - especially if there is good background on the item. The same goes for photos in books but we do need to have permission from the photographer/author/publisher to post.

I think that these bags are fascinating weaving gems and it is a priviledge to assemble a virtual collection!

Very many thanks.

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Pamela

Post subject: permission to show photos from Textiles from Burma

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:02 pm

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File comment: Fig.6.3.1.iv. Bag, Kachin, Jinghpaw Hkahku, northern Kachin State and Hukawng Valley. This bag, collected by Green during the 1920s shows the same designs as those on an heirloom bag used by Hkahku weaver Gwi Kai Nan as her source for the new Museum com

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File comment: Fig.4.4.ii. Models wearing traditional outfits associated with the Jinghpaw Hkahku group. The outfits were commissioned by the Museum in 2001. Photograph taken at the Manau festival ground in Myitkyina by Htoi Awng, 2002. Royal Pavilion, Libraries &amp

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File comment: Detail: man's bag. Kachin, Jinghpaw Hkahku, made by Gwi Kai Nan in Myitkyina 2002. See Fig.6.3.1.iv. Royal Pavilion, Libararies & Museums WA508707

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Pamela

Post subject: updated Kachin bags photogallery

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:40 pm

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Pamela

Post subject: further bags from the Brighton Museum collection

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:35 pm

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File comment: A Jinghpaw Hkahku bag commissioned by the James Green Centre for World art at the Brighton Museum & Art Gallery in 2001. The bag is based on a much older one in the weaver's family

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File comment: Detail of a Jinghpaw Hkahku bag commissioned by the James Green Centre for World art at the Brighton Museum & Art Gallery in 2001. The bag is based on a much older one in the weaver's family

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File comment: Kachin bag collected by James Henry Green in the 1920s in what is now Kachin State. Probably a Hkahku bag. Note the similarity to the one illustrated by Michael Howard fig 120 on page 163 of the first edition of Textiles of the Hill Tribes of Burma

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File comment: Detail of Kachin bag collected by James Henry Green in the 1920s in what is now Kachin State. Probably a Hkahku bag. Note the similarity to the one illustrated by Michael Howard fig 120 on page 163 of the first edition of Textiles of the Hill Tribes of

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Pamela

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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:30 am

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File comment: Kachin bag in Digna's collection acquired in Yangon in March 2006.

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File comment: Reverse of a Kachin bag in Digna's collection acquired in Yangon in March 2006.

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File comment: Detail of a Kachin bag in Digna's collection acquired in Yangon in March 2006.

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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:03 am

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The second bag which I will post below is more intricately woven and closer to the style of the one which Bill originally posted. My attention has been drawn to an unusual addition in the weaving - that of the incorporation of the body of some light-reflective insect body parts which are woven into the body of the bag. Digna is unsure which insect has been used but has been told that it is both moth and firefly. See the detail and close up shots below. Has anyone heard of any similar incorporation of an insect body into a textile?

Probably the bag was made for a chief since the complexity of the weaving was usually reserved for bags of important people. ("The dragon motif, one of the most difficult patterns to weave, represents Baren Num Raw in Jinghpaw mythology, and is a symbol of duwa (chief) status. Royal Pavilion, Libraries & Museums (Brighton in "Textiles from Burma") - See comments on this complex weaving previously on this thread.)

My thanks to Digna for permission to share these photos and enhance our study of these fascinating bags. I invite anyone who has a Kachin bag (or can point - with the relevant permissions - to one in another collection) to post photos and share any information which they have on the textile to add to our virtual 'collection'.

I will confirm on this thread when I have updated the photogallery of the bags on the main tribaltextiles.info site.

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File comment: Kachin bag acquired by Digna in Yangon in March 2006

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File comment: Reverse of Kachin bag acquired by Digna in Yangon in March 2006

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File comment: Detail of Kachin bag acquired by Digna in Yangon in March 2006

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File comment: Detail of Kachin bag (with insect showing) acquired by Digna in Yangon in March 2006

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File comment: close up of detail of Kachin bag showing the insect body shining through the weaving

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