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Thanks Pamela for the drum photos. These have such a different graphic design than either the Karen or the Dong Son. They do keep the sunburst in the middle, although without the butterflies between the sunburst points like the Karen. Great work.

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Bailing Miao quilt covers/coffin covers.
I have just come back from a quick trip to Guizhou where I was fortunate enough to be invited to a Bailing Miao friend’s aunt’s funeral. Taking place in the countryside (Pai Diao township), this was a very traditional affair, which included the sacrifice of 2 water buffaloes and 5 pigs (a very honourable, ‘though expensive send-off, and one which resulted in a lot of meat eating over the next 2 days due to a lack of refrigeration). From this interesting experience, I can confirm that specific styles of batik “quilt” covers are used as coffin covers (as mentioned earlier on in this thread). Depending on when the simple inner wooden casket/coffin becomes available, the cover might be put directly over the body, although it usually covers this casket until the actual burial, when the simple casket is put inside a more substantial coffin. The coffin cover is then taken back to the family home to be kept (and possibly used again).


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On a different note, I must revise my explanation about the origins of the Bailing Miao. Apologies for getting it wrong! My Bailing Miao friend’s family and families in other specific areas, see themselves as historically being members of the Shui people, whereas Bailing Miao from certain other areas and townships consider themselves to be of Miao ancestry. The Shui have two distinct types, one being more traditionally Shui, using their own language, an ancient form of writing, costumes and traditions, the other being those who share a common language, wear the same style clothing and follow similar customs to the Bailing “Miao”. Since the Shui are a much smaller minority than the Miao, perhaps over time (many hundreds of years), the Shui that lived in close proximity to the Miao, slowly adopted the local costumes, customs and language of their dominant neighbours. Apparently, the Bailing Miao language is more in tune with the Miao language than traditional Shui. Partly due to this language connection, the government considers the Bailing Miao to be a subgroup of the Miao rather than a subgroup of the Shui, however, some Bailing still call themselves Shui and elect to be classified as Shui on their ID cards. There are still many unanswered questions concerning the origins of the Bailing Miao and their double ancestry, but they themselves seem happy to accept that although they originate from 2 different sources, they belong to the same group and have traditionally married predominantly within that group.


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Thank you SO very much for sharing with us this information and these very special (and priviledged) photos. I will make sure that I pass on the info to Gina Corrigan since we have discussed this very point (in 2001) when amongst the Bailing Miao and examining a very beautiful example of a cover in the process of being waxed.

It is gems like this which really, for me, make the forum seem SO very worthwhile.

THANKS!!

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As it all seems a bit quiet on the textile front, I thought I’d post a few more batik quilt covers to give the forum a wider appreciation of the variety of patterns and styles used by the good folk of SE Guizhou………… I appologise to any members who feel they’ve seen enough batik to last a life time, but I hope some of you will enjoy looking at these pieces.

As is quite apparent, a number of them have various imperfections, either from when they were being made (particularly during the dying process), from general wear and tear and from damp damage. Unfortunately, this is generally unavoidable with covers that would have been used all year round for many, many years and then been roughly washed perhaps once a year. However, they do make quite an interesting little group.

All of these covers are by the Bailing Miao,


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Some more covers.


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