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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:35 pm 
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hello all,

in behalf of a befriended collector i wanted to ask for your opinion.
this belt/sash should be from the above mentioned area; in my personal opinion (just because of the green colored beetle wings) it could be also south america.
but actually i got no idea.

its "woven" out of small little elongated seed(?) beads and the fringes at both ends have green colored beetle wings (or parts).

lengst is appr. 120 cm (roughly 4 ft), width appr. 25 cm (roughly 10 in).
any ideas, comments, thoughts or else ??

all the best and thanks very much in advance
udo


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What an interesting piece. The seeds look like Job's tear seeds such as you see on Karen blouses and other southeast Asian regional pieces. I wonder if it might be Burma/Bangladesh. I say this thinking also of the beatle wings in a Chin bag that formum member Digna has.

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Following on from my thoughts of possibly Burma or Bangladesh I have been looking in some of my Naga references. Some groups wear a sash like piece over one shoulder and across the chest at a diagonal. Some Naga groups use Job’s tear seeds to decorate. In Aglaja Stirn and Peter van Ham’s book ‘Hidden World of the Naga: Living Traditions in Northeast India and Burma’ pages 158-9 under the section ‘Beetle Wings and Cowrie Shells’ there is a reference to
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"beetle wings, which many Naga communities admire for their iridescent shimmer. The mother-of-pearl-like elytra of beetles such as Sternocera aquisignata as well as Chrysochroa Bivittata are used by the Angami, The Rengma, the Zeme, the Sema, the Mao and the Rongmei – not always to adorn cloth but also for earings, headgear decoration, and so on. Among the Zeme, garments include women’s wrap skirts and breast cloth embellished with rows and fringes of beetle wings.”


Just a thought...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:56 am 
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Hi Udo-
I don't really know where this is from, but am inclined to agree with Pamela: my first instinct was Naga, and it resembles the belts that they use to attach their knives, which are worn at the back of the waist. The length of your piece is curious, tho as it is too long to be for the waist. The materials are native to this part of the world, and both the seeds and beetle wings are used by the Karen, of all the 'hilltribes' around here in northern Thailand and eastern Burma, tho I cannot think of any examples of their use of a long piece like this. I cannot tell from your photo, but if the beetles are only on one end, it would indicate that that is the 'bottom' and they are intended to hang down. The Karen ornament the lower fringes of their 'singing shawls' the same way. However, I would be surprised if this was Karen...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:28 am 
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hi pam & susan,


    @ naga: i know that naga groups use different types of seed beads (but haven´t heard of using beetle wings) but somehow it didnt come into my mind that this piece could be naga origin...

    @ beetle ends: there are beetle wings on both ends but the side which is not seen very good has far not that many, as they have been fallen/broken off out of whatever reason.

so eventually it will remain a mystery piece (which is ok) but in case someone stumbles across a reference piece of known origin somewhen i would love to know.

otherwise thanks for your always fast and profound help
udo :mrgreen:

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