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 Post subject: Lao textiles - tee jan??
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:25 am 
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Hi There,

My first time to forum. :P

I am hoping someone can give me a little education on the attached items. I was told these were made by hand, however I am amazed at the back side of these little pieces. They are just so almost perfect I wonder if they were hand woven then embroidered with a machine.

My housekkepers daughter gave them the name tee jan???

I hope I attach the correct size photos, I hope they attach!


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 Post subject: big pics
PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:26 am 
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I am so sorry the pics are so huge! I don't know how to make them any smaller!

[Dear Namaste, I am so pleased that, after your abortive 'junior' joining of the forum you came back and joined us as an adult! Don't worry about the size of the photos - I have saved and reduced them so that they are not more than 600px in width. It took me a little time to realise that you had posted back and front of two different motifs! I have taken details of your original photos and, I hope(!) am posting them in the similar order as your photos above. This should make it easier to discuss whether the Lao/Tai pieces are hand or machine woven or embroidered. Pamela]


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:39 am 
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Hi Namaste-
These are skirt hems and the term used here is 'teen seen', with 'seen' being the word for tubeskirt, and 'teen' referring to the separately attached hemband. This particular style is from Laos and Vietnam- some say they're made by Tai Jae in Laos, but Michael Howard shows them on the cover of his book on textiles of the Daic peoples of Vietnam, specifically the Tai Muang in Nghe An Province, and includes several examples. These may be the same people, just with different names.

As to whether they are machine or hand-embroidered: I cannot say, tho I would be surprised if they used machines. Such things exist in larger towns, such as here in Chiang Mai, but embroidery is often a 'cottage industry' done by individuals in their homes and in their spare time and I would expect this to be the case with these skirthems. But, these are very popular here and are incorporated in all manner of modern apparel and accessories from pants to purses; the demand may have required a production method more suited to volume. Who knows?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:00 am 
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Thanks very much Susan - the photos form the the Howards' Daic book bring the textiles to life.

When I first started working on the photos to change their sizes I thought that the embroidery was by machine. However, as I was producing the detail enlargements I felt that probably the embroidery was by hand. Even from photo blow ups it is 'challenging' to determine. There is nothing like examining the real thing..... Given still well developed needle skills locally in the areas where the skirt bands are woven it is very possible that embroidery by hand is a viable option. Even if the embroidery is by machine, it is clearly not by a predetermined electronic pattern but control of the machine by the individual creating the design - which would take considerable skill and I would take my (proverbial) hat off to them for their control!

Regardless of technique these are nice skirt bands.

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