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Jain merchants in Rajasthan used to twine cotton bags that had one or two lines of writing. You can read more about them in:

DW Fraser P Collingwood. "Kurji and paket: inscribed twined bags of Jain itinerant merchants in western Rajasthan" The Textile Museum Journal 1997-1998: 48-59.

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Hi all, Do the Thai and Cambodians use the same alphabet? Can anyone read or translate the writing in these two pidan textiles from Cambodia? Any ideas about how the width differences in the pattern repeats of the first pidan occurred or the age of these pidan would also be welcome. Best regards, MAC

I guess my file comment for the 3rd photo was too long as it didn't all upload. It should continue: and the point of weaving. Any other ideas about how these width differences may have occurred would be most welcome. Thanks again


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Hi MAC- I cannot answer your questions other than to say that Thai and Cambodian/Khmer alphabets are not the same, nor are the languages. Maybe someone else can shed more light on your other queries, or possibly translate the writing.


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I am a little concern about the age of your pidan. I was recently offered these 2 Pidans extremely fine weave about 3 meters long i almost bought them. but I was told by a friend that they are reproductions woven by a few master weavers in Cambodia. In any event I will post the photos of the 2 pieces for reference.


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I am a little concern about the age of your pidan. I was recently offered these 2 Pidans extremely fine weave about 3 meters long i almost bought them. but I was told by a friend that they are reproductions woven by a few master weavers in Cambodia. In any event I will post the photos of the 2 pieces for reference.


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Effi is right- pidan of this style tend to be of recent (relatively speaking) production- probably post-Khmer Rouge revolution/after the late 1970's. I rarely see figures represented on old pidan. Also colors are different- newer ones are brighter: the reds are brighter and more red, rather than that achieved with stick lac; greens are not bright either and tend toward olive or a dark, forest green. Often they are bordered with a rolled silk edge in gold color. At least that is my experience- I have had the privilege of seeing quite a few old pieces in a local collection.


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