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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:36 pm 
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This rug is one of my favorites, maybe because it is not yielding its secrets easily: Who is the red-bearded king? What are the curious mythical(?) forms flanking him? To what does the date refer? And what does the Arabic/Pashtu/Farsi(???) lettering say? It is finely woven and is not thick, so it has a lovely, flexible handle. It's been suggested that it is Balouch, but it does not fit in terms of colors and feel. The Balouch are known for pictorial rugs, but I cannot find any with figures like on this one. Might anyone out there have seen anything like this, or have a better knowledge of history than I? Your thoughts are welcome.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:18 am 
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Susan,

Don't know anything about rugs but there are two with figures of kings on rugrabbit at the moment. Have a look if you haven't already.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:50 am 
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Thanks MAC! I tried to find the ones on Rug Rabbit, but had trouble loading it. Will keep trying. I guess we don't have any rug enthusiasts on this forum... funny, because rugs were my introduction to tribal textiles.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:43 am 
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Hi Susan,
I should also know more about rugs than I do, since I have lots of books about them.
The repetition of the central panel strikes me as very unusual, not in the sense that it is rare, rather that it suggests lack of a concept to fill the whole area, perhaps a sign that the rug has been made for modern trade. But I could be wrong.

Men who have made the Hajj traditionally dyed their beards with henna, learned that from reading "Kim" long ago.
Does he have to be a king? His headgear could be a round cap. The two strange figures let me think of Gog and Magog, but that could just be my speculation. They do occur in the Qu'ran, however:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
Hmm? And then the man could be the king Dhul-Qarnayn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhul-Qarnayn
All speculation, but I have heard wilder ideas expounded at rug conferences.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:31 pm 
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Thank you so much Larry! Your suggestions led me on a wild quest via Google images yesterday... from Dhul Qarnayn to Cyrus to Gilgamesh to mushussu... I went thru Luristan to Babylon and the Ishtar Gate and back to Persia. In my search I learned that it was thought that Darius, son of Cyrus, had a red beard and hair. As for the mythical creatures... they could be a weaver's fantastical interpretations of 'mushussu' which are the Mid-east's predecessor to the dragon of the East, tho these look a bit benign for such a ferocious beast. Such beasts are often depicted on Luristani bronzes as turned sideways, flanking a central human figure, just as on the rug. It seems possible that a weaver may have seen such a depiction and chose it for the subject of the rug. Why they duplicated it three times is a good question... for emphasis? Or perhaps lack of a more creative design... A translation of the writing however would be most helpful in solving this mystery. I really appreciate your post and the links, and find the information about the use of henna for hajjis also very interesting. This is by no means solved!

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