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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:22 pm 
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Hello All - I wanted to share pictures of a Philippine loincoth that I recently acquired. MAC was kind enough to help me identify it but I can't seem to find his attribution :oops: I'd love to see comments and opinions on it. Its dimensions are 141.5 in (359.4 cm) by 9.5 in (24.1 cm)
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I know zip ;-) about loincloths, but in case you hadn't seen it this post has some excellent comparison examples with similar weft-twining finishing:


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Warren, Glad to see you found time to post your loincloth. Did you take new photos? These look bigger and better! Now we can really see what it looks like.

I still believe your loincloth is from one of the areas in Kalinga Prov., Northern Luzon. Probably southwest Kalinga. The strong red, green and yellow colors are typical of Kalinga. I am attaching photos of a Kalinga cape (blanket) for comparison.

I don't remember seeing warp float, woven patterns like yours on Kalinga loincloths. These patterns point more to Ifugao Prov. to the south of Kalinga, where they are used on skirts and blankets (see the Bayaong blanket on your thread ??? Indonesian).

Ifugao textiles are few and far between, especially old ones so I can not say for sure. Your cloth could possibly be from early 20th C. Ifugao. Do the threads seem to be handspun or commercial? A look at the books and more thought is needed. I just don't remember seeing these colors on recent Ifugao textiles.

I will try to dig out and photograph my Kalinga loincloths for comparison.

I will also post a loincloth from Mountain Prov. and one from the Gaddang to the east of Kalinga. The styles are very different.

Best regards, MAC


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:23 am 
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Here is the Kankanay loincloth from Mt. Prov., northern Luzon


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The Gaddang are very fond of beads and use them on their skirts. jackets, capes and loincloths, but not on their blankets.


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I have several loincloths in my textile collection but, unfortunately none from the Philippines.

I have had a look through the gorgeous book "Sinaunang Habi: Philippine Ancestral Weave" by Marian Pastor-Roces (see http://www.tribaltextiles.info/bibliogr ... _books.htm for fuller details). I am in no way an expert on textiles from the Philippines but I would hazard a guess that your loincloth is Ifugao. I base that on similarity between the supplemental warp motives in the two side warp stripes which are similar to those in a female wrap-around skirt shown on page 45 of 'Sinaunang Habi'. On pages 148 and 149 are photos of a man, Noel Lagupan from Ifugao wearing a shoulder cloth with similar warp motifs and weaving a loincloth. This is much in shadow in the photo on page 149 but it has the weft twining - albeit in white on a red background - not dissimilar to that shown in your loincloth. I would say that your loincloth is a later version using wool twining. I am afraid that I do not have permission to post images from the book.

Having said that, see http://www.tribaltextiles.info/articles ... Bontoc.htm for a Bontoc textile which is part of Eric Anderson's article on "Northern Luzon highland textiles" http://www.tribaltextiles.info/articles ... xtiles.htm Similar supplemental warp designs appear!!! Both the Ifugao and Bontoc are found in North Luzon so perhaps this, at least, could be a starting point for further research.

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I realise that forum members will be getting tired of my string of posts on this thread but I thought that you would appreciate better images of the photos I refer to above. Overnight author/photographer David Howard has kindly and quickly responded positively to my request to post images from 'The Last Filipino Head Hunters' on the forum as long as WWW.TRIBALARTASIA.COM DAVID HOWARD ASIAN TRIBAL ART appears on the same page - which I am more than happy to do!

I am posting below the two images I referred to above:

Page 132 - Ifuago tribe in village of Tam-an...
Page 150 - the shaman Gem-o showing his loincloth


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