Hi Vernon - Nice skirts and hard to find. The Kalimantan Ibanic peoples are fairly tiny compared with Sarawak's Ibans leading naturally to a much smaller production of pua and skirts.
My opinion is that the first one you posted - DSC03710.JPG - is farily definitely from the Ketungau peoples based on those horizontal stipes in the side borders and what appears to be a bluish cast there. Also the motifs at your top end and the overall "feel" of the main body design. My article in Arts of Asia on ceremonial skirts from the Kalimantan has skirts I consider Ketungau and I tried to give several charactictics I find in "Ketungau" skirts that seem to distinguish them from the Mualang and Kantu'.
Your second posted skirt -DSC03718.JPG- I an not so sure of based just on the picture as I cannot see enough detail. Not all Ketungau skirts necessarily have a "bluish" cast in borders and/or the "horizontal stripe" elements. But if this one does, that would lead me again to suggest Kalimantan origin. In any event it does not look like Iban, Mualang or Kantu'.
I have about 13 Ketungau skirts in my collection. For those who do not have access to my article, I post two such skirts for comparison with Vernon's.
By the way - I have seen both Ketunggau and Ketungau for spellings.
I am interested and fascinated with the similarity and differences between the weavings of the Kalimantan Ibanics and those of the Ibans. I hope the Forum can lead to more such postings so I and others can study these differences.
Maybe we should start a thread on just skirts?
Thanks for sharing these Vernon.
-John
vernonkeditjolly wrote:
Hi John
I acquired these two ikat skirts from Pontianak, Sambas (West Kalimantan) about fifteen years ago. I am certain they are Ibanic but I cannot place provenance or ethnic group (Mualang, Bugau, Kantu?) as I have no knowledge of their traditions whtasoever. I love the rich morinda dye. Very, very burgundy!
Perhaps you could tell me something about them?
Vernon